Exaggerated Conspiracy Theories

November 2, 2006

I’m sick and tired of people complaining all the time.

I’m sick and tired of people making excuses.

I’m sick and tired of people blaming others for their mistakes.

I’m sick and tired of people not owning up to their actions and consequently resigning their posts.

But more than anything, I’m sick of conspiracy theories, more specifically the Jewish ones.

I’m sick and tired of people blaming the Jews for everything. If something is wrong, blame it on Israel. It’s like in my old job, when I worked in television. I dealt with everything that had to do with the tapes, and there was a producer who didn’t like me very much.

Every time that something would go wrong, she would blame me, even if it wasn’t my fault. The highlight was when the soundman accidentally pressed a button that made a fart sound go off on live TV. When we were off air, the producer yelled at me.

So I yelled back. Do I look like a sound man?! WTF?!

The point of my rant is this: today I saw that the Daily Star in Lebanon said today that Israel’s attack on Lebanese factories was due to us losing bids to them in the international market.

In what world would a country lose hundreds of lives for milk?! Are you insane?! Okay, so maybe the folks got pissed, but get real! No one would call the army to bomb a city because of a lost bid to sell dairy products to UN forces in Lebanon?

As opposted to some countries we know, Israel values the life of its citizens, and would never consiously put them at risk.

Especially not for cottage cheese.

Get real.



  1. First, it was good to see the hopeful post ‘Young Israelis making peace with Syria’.

    I’m glad you raised the above issue. It begs the important question and deeper issue: just why did the IDF target a dairy factory? Why did it brutally target and attack food factories and civilian amenities all around the country?

    While causality is usually never black and white and it is highly unlikely that the IDF went in to target these factories, the fact remains that it did. Opportunity, rather than motive, supplies the rationale here. It was all part of the “let’s give Lebanon a walloping” strategy by Israel’s belligerent leadership (I use the term “leadership” loosely).

    So I don’t see any suggestion of a conspiracy, much less a Jewish one. One one extreme we see the straw man of ‘conspiracy theory’ set up, but at the other, we have paranoia where none should exist.

    How is Berri “blaming others for their mistakes” etc? What mistakes would they be?

    I agree, people should own up and resign, starting with Olmert, Peretz and all the other cowards (with the honourable exception of Labour MP Ophir Pines-Paz who quit over extreme racist Lieberman’s inclusion and elevation to government) who continue to take Israel down a perilous path.

    The easiest way to stop rocket attacks into Israel is to end the occupation(s). Indeed, it is the only thing that will stop them.

  2. Unfortunately I’m on my way out so I can’t make a lengthy response.

    As for blaming others for their mistakes, I wasn’t referring to anyone in particular at the moment (rather a personal thing that I didn’t want to get into) though I’m sure it applies to just about anyone.

    I didn’t know Israel targeted the factories so I will not make any attempt at justifying it since I have no right, seeing as I had no previous knowledge.

    I’m not paranoid about a zillion conspiracies going on around us, I was referring to the one article. That the war was all started so that we could bomb the dairy factories.

    As for resigning, I was referring to those people that you mentioned. (With another honorable mention to our old minister of justice who resigned several months ago when accusations were brought up that he forced a kiss on a worker.)

    My nephew is pulling on my leg, so I gotta go.

    But to end the though, we don’t think ending occupations will end the rockets, because they aren’t only there to fight occupation.

    They’re there to fight the existance of a Jewish state.

  3. Actually, most of them are there because they had the misfortune to be born in Israeli occupied land.

    I agree with the conspiracy theory business ingeneral, and ridiculous in this case. Though as pointed out above, it does beg the queston as to why the IDF chose to target civilian structures in its bombing campaign in Lebanon.

    I don’t think any government particularly values the lives of its citizens, that is the nature of governments and the nature of people who seek power. That’s not to say the Isreali government would casually risk lives for economic reasons, but all governments are willing to sacrifice lives when politics demands it.

    The idea that Israel “values life” and its neighbors don’t is, frankly, racist propaganda. This attitude is part of Israel’s contribution to the endless cycle of violence that pervades the Holy Land. It’s a claim made by every colonial and imperial power in history, just to put it in context.


  4. Hi Doug,

    I beg to differ about Israel not valuing life and the opposite. I won’t repeat what I said in my comment that I had above, but I would like to point out (as opposed to racist propaganda) that Israel would never ever pay its citizens to kill themselves on a bus or in a restaurant or whatever, which is proven information from several Arab countries.

    It is common knowledge that the Palestinian families of those who die carrying out a terrorist attack are compensated financially for their “loss” and we’ve all seen the flyers offering money for these actions.

    So I beg to differ. Israel won’t even show picture of its dead out of respect for those killed and their families.

    Maybe if we did then people would see what we live wtih daily as well, but I prefer the world to hate us than to see my neighbor’s dead body.

  5. I’m sure Israel values life and so does Lebanon. Hezbollah is the issue, so why target Lebanon’s infrastructure?

    Should Hezbollah be characterized as a terrorist group? They have done more for the people than the government.

  6. Like I said in comments on this post, I did not know that Israel had bombed factories (though ours were also targets of many missile launches, many of which missed by pure luck) therefore I cannot comment on that particular event.

    The Hezbollah isn’t characterized as a terrorist group because of what it has or has not done for the people. They are characterized as a terrorist group because they finance people to blow themselves up to kill others.

    Besides, in a democracy, like Lebanon is trying to be now, anyone who wants to run for power can.

    If they want to be part of the government – which obvoiusly they do judging by recent events and statements – then they need to do it the right way by running in the elections.

    From what I understand, their real stronghold is only in southern Lebanon.

  7. On most measures, Lebanon is more of a democracy than Israel is. It maintains a sectarian balance where each religious group shares power, unlike Israel where a whole fifth of the population is in some cases actively discriminated against for the misfortune of being non-Jewish. Both Jews and non-Jews have lived in the Holy Land for thousands of years, as you know.

    Israel does not have a monopoly on virtue and your chauvinistic attitude about Lebanon “trying” to be a democracy (would you characterise Israel as “trying” to be a democracy or its actions as that of a terrorist state, because it DOES pay people to blow up innocents?) reflects this.

    In this way, I agree with Doug and I think you’ve missed this particular point. He is not saying that only Israel doesn’t value life as opposed to its neighbours, he’s making the point that most governments see its own citizens as expendable, particular when it achieves the aims of state, as exemplified in times of war.

    Israel treats its soldiers as heroes (as most countries) and often even lionises those who perform horrific acts against Arabs. The police turn a blind eye against the illegal and immoral actions of extreme settlers, which range from harrassment, to incitement, to murder, to illegal building of settlements on Palestinian lands.

    Hezbollah is a legitimate organisation with its military wing constituting legitimate resistance. As previously mentioned it has two mionisters in government. It emerged with Israel’s 1982 invasion of Lebanon (well done Israel, create another enemy) which drove the IDF out. If it hadn’t been for Hezbollah, Israel might have claimed southern Lebanon and the coveted Litani River as its own (long a stated Zionist dream).

    Lastly, I have no problems whatsoever with Israel being a Jewish state if that’s what it so desires and it doesn’t impinge upon any one else. Unfortunately it DOES if it entails the wholesale uprooting and or occupation of thousands of others whom it sees as undesirable in its midst in order to maintain a mostly Jewish state; people who have been there for thousands of years uprooted by off-the-boat emigres from Eastern Europe. Its criminal.

    This is racism and this is why the world is seeing Israel’s actions as apartheid, nay, worse than apartheid.

    I have been vocal throughout my life against any form of racism and against anti-semitism. Israel is not immune from this.

  8. Israel has not prevented a single religion from partaking in its government. The proof of that is the Arab sections of the government. The question is who do you count as non-Jewish? Do the Palestinians (that is, no Arab-Israelis) count? Because you can’t have it both ways. You can’t be represented by two governments.

    What I meant by trying to be a democracy is that it’s fairly new in Lebanon. I know that Hezbollah is a legitimate organization there, what I don’t understand is how a country can have more than one military wing (independence, that is).

    The second Israel became a state, all of its resistance organizations disappeared with only the IDF becoming its military forces. All the groups combined to form the army, and those who didn’t want to almost go themselves killed, like in the case of Altalena. Ben Gurion preferred to order the killing of his own people rather than let an additional military organization exist in Israel.

    Israel has put in jail many settlers who have done harm to anyone, Jewish, Arab, or otherwise. When we aren’t living in extreme times where every other day there is a terrorist bombings, most Israelis don’t believe in killing all the Arabs and “throwing them into the sea.”

    No one things that what Goldstein did all those years ago was a good thing, as opposed to almost all the Arabs do when any terrorist bombing in Israel kills dozens of people. You don’t see Jews dancing on rooftops like you saw the Palestinians when we were getting hit by Iraq in 91 or anything else.

    It’s barbaric to see how Nasrallah called the Arab children murdered by his own missiles shahids. If you think the parents of those brothers (I think they were 2 and 4) who were killed said “that’s okay, they have 80 virgins waiting for them in heaven” then you are wrong, because numerous news reports said that they were against the Hezbollah as well. Nasrallah didn’t apologize for killing those kids. On the other hand, the SECOND anything like that happens with Israel there are multiple investigations going on (like the zillion going on now because of the war, and all the people who have and are resigning).

    Israel issues apologies for anyone they killed like that. I’m by NO means saying that it’s okay that kids were killed or anyone for that matter that isn’t an armed terrorist, but in the very least, we show remorse.

    I have never seen ANY Arab group apologize for killing a single one of our kids.

  9. Hi Taltalk, thanks for your response and apologies for the time lapse. My own 3 year old nephew pulls on mt leg quite a bit when he’s over, something which I’m sure you can relate to. 😉

    I abhor all loss of life as mentioned before and violence does not solve anything ultimately. Tnere is and can be no military solution for Hamas and Hezbollah. I have seen Arab groups denounce violence many times and would be happy to send you links. Miftah is one such organisation, headed by Hanan Ashrawi who won the Sydney Peace Prize here a few years ago. Did that cause a hullabaloo amongst the right wing Jewish community here. Luckily there are plenty of valued Jewish friends who are not of this persuasion. But they made it very difficult for her. They felt threatened that a Palestinian would win the award, which speaks volumes. But that’s another matter.

    A recent poll, as cited in Ha’aretz, quotes the disturbing statistic that ONE THIRD — 30 percent — of the Israeli public believes that Yitzhak Rabin’s assassin Yigal Amir should be pardoned. (Its in an interview with MK Benny Alon, who advocates the “voluntary transfer” = ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. His view is not even seen as racist or unacceptable or extremist; a fact that makes all of us observing Israeli politics shake our heads in disbelief.

    I’m really gravely worried about Israel and the bellicosity in the mass political psychology there.

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